Blurt Online: SWIFT KICK TO THE SOLAR PLEXUS / DAVE SCHOOLS
Fred Mills
· 9 months ago
Dave, that was amazing -- you and I had almost the exact same teenage experience, larceny and all. Were were separated at birth as children? -Fred Mills, Blurt Managing Editor
Terry, musiclistener
· 9 months ago
Great blog Dave. Wow, I got the guilt Dave I could feel it from my own reckless childhood. My first experience was with a pack of gum, I didn't chew any for years. Regarding the digital download era, I can't bring myself to steal online, I either pay for it or go and buy cds/vinyl. I get teased often from my friends who think I'm nuts for paying for music. I must admit I enjoy holding and studying the artifact while listening.
Anonymous Coward
· 9 months ago
Downloading illegal music is not theft, it is copyright infringement. ;)
jon
· 9 months ago
dave-
love your essay. i bought my music but stole sexy fiction from the local bookstore. The way you feel about Ummagumma is how i feel about "Erotic Confessions Vol 8"
How about casting a dark, guilty mood over the orlando HOB with an nasty Astronomy Domine jam?
StarOnline
· 9 months ago
When are you putting out a book Dave?
JC
· 9 months ago
Good read, Dave.
Bo
· 9 months ago
Dude, you're so full of sh!t. Copyright is dead, and the benefits far outweigh you stuffing money in your fat a$$. Don't want to share it? Cool...don't record it and let it out of your possession.
The last time I checked, you couldn't download tickets to a show. So anyone making music still can sell tickets and perform for $$$.
sees
· 9 months ago
Let me guess...you absolutely FAILED reading comprehension?
weedy
· 9 months ago
Tell it like it is, bro! Some of these clowns expect us to go back to the dark ages. It's the internet. It's sharing. It ain't going away. Get over it.
case
· 9 months ago
go f@ck yourself Bo, Panic shares every damn show they do through tapers moron. What an a$$hole! See ya'll at 10,000 Lakes
Staying anonymous for the RIAA
· 9 months ago
Curious what your thoughts were on the home taping debate during the early 80's, and whether you would consider someone dubbing a copy on their tape deck to be stealing as well. Also, I think it's unfair for the artist to play the victim role when you consider that out of the $15 I pay for a cd, about a dollar of that goes to the artist. I have no ethical qualms about bypassing a greedy, corrupt, rip-off record industry that treats its artists & customers with an attitude that borders on contempt (I'm glad Mr. Schools feels pride in continuing to purchase "every conceivable repackaging of Dark Side of The Moon they've issued over the years," but I'm personally fed up with buying the same songs over & over again). If there was a way to send a dollar (or two, or five, etc.) directly to the artist, I think most fans would like to as well (as we've seen proven with Radiohead & Wilco's "donation download" models).
And writing this as someone in their mid-30's who both illegally downloads, as well as continues to buy, a considerable amount of music, I have found that illegal downloading has given me the opportunity to significantly broaden my music experience by giving me access to areas like free jazz, avant-garde electronicisms, etc., that in the past I would have been (and continue to be) too poor to buy. There is nothing more disappointing that forking over $10-$20 to take a chance on something and end up being disappointed. The high price of music results in safe, more conservative purchases from the cash-strapped fan. And I think due to file sharing we are going to continue to see an incredible "eclecticizing" of music over the next few years, as previously difficult-to-find music becomes possible to find with a click of a button.
For example, did you know that Geffen owns the rights to The Raincoats first two albums, which is out of print & unavailable on itunes, and refuses to license it to another label? Without file-sharing, music listeners would be unable to hear them unless they were lucky enough to stumble across it in a used bin.
I share Mr. School's fondness for record buying, but I find his take on illegal downloads to be overly simplistic and not show a whole lot of thought on the subject.
I stole Light Fuse Get Away when I was 14 from Sam Goody at Regency. Sorry Dave. I did purchase Earth To America on vinyl though.
sees
· 9 months ago
I don't know which suffering is worse...the guilt of my own petty theft or this "fantastic array of malware and spyware that permanently crippled my PC." What I do know is... I don't need to sabotage another hard drive to rediscover how pathetic I feel holding guilt's hand instead of my beloved mouse. namaste.
Neil Jackson
· 9 months ago
i enjoy your take through written word on subject matter as much as your musical interpretations on stage with your bass. thanks for your vibes dave!
hayden
· 9 months ago
schools,panic needs a trip to HAWAII,MAUI,come on you guys know those highways on the mainland like the back of your hand,MAUI is calling,great places to play,and plenty of music loving freaks........even have solid connect for deep jungle jams,acres of land,electricity,housing and the best grub we can grow and catch.......fresh ahi aloha,HAYDEN HANES ,haydedude@yahoo.com.........lets do it bro!!!!!!!!!! winner winner chicken dinner........
Jason
· 9 months ago
Nice. Great Blog. Very, very well written. That is too funny. Being a child of the eighties, we stole tapes. I stole my very first tape...Zeppelin I. My parents wouldn't let me buy it because they were Satan Worshippers. Yep. So, I stole it. Every single time I listen to that album I have a flashback similar to Dave's experience...Kudos. I am sure every real fan of music has a similar experience...way to capture the experience, and put a smile on my face at the same time....
Philip Gossett
· 9 months ago
Thanks man, I ripped off Led Zeppelin's House's of The Holy from K-Mart when I was a teenager, I was terrified as I walked out, almost started to run. I kept my cool and to this day, have never been brought to justice. Thanks for sharing. I hope you write your own bio one day, we all would love to read it. Love your music.
Phil.
JD
· 9 months ago
well said friend
geoff
· 9 months ago
i am a bit younger but also had similar experiences. in the late 80's early 90's i too stole music, but from k-mart. my first time was motley crue-girls... and def leppard/hysteria. i too had guilt but not for YEARS later. better late than never i guess. cheers.
J.R.
· 7 months ago
GEO???
Ernie
· 9 months ago
Well written Dave. When did Radiohead do that cover? Yea i would read your book....After I borrow a friends and make a copy of it in the copier at work! kidding......
WestCoastPanic
· 9 months ago
Ditto Dave, and by the way, I have got something you really ought to hear. I have met you briefly, and knowing you were likely pretty busy left the groupy conversation crap to a minimum and wished you well on your travels. If you are now occassionaly or somewhat permanently residing in the Northern part of my West Coast state, I really do have something you must hear. I bought and paid for it so no Karmic guilt can eminate your way. Peace and safe travels. P.S. would ya mind a pointer or two regarding my Modulus?
J.R.
· 7 months ago
Dave, Although I've never stolen any music in my time, I was a baseball card thief when I was a preteen. I think everyone has some sort of gluttony in thier lifetime. This blog will definitely take everyone back to those times. Although the satisfaction of having the baseball cards was unimaginable at the time it has since vanished. Replaced with new passsions. Although I was not born in the great Rock n' Roll era of the 60's and 70's, I believe I have heard and seen some of the greatest musicians ever to walk this planet. Thank you for all of the music that you have brought to my life and for all the memories that have come along with it. I'll see you guys in Louisville ready to etch more into an ever growing tree.
kmccull01
· 2 months ago
Dave i was hoping to connect with ya or JB. I was recently diagnosed with Stage 4 High Grade bladder cancer which is now in my bones and brain. Basically i have been told that all they can do is quality of life help now and no medical treatment. I am 35 from KC and obviously this was a blow. I have been a long time WSP fan seeing you guys over 70 times. Even saw you in KC at the Waldo Astoria theater July of 94 with like 300 people stood right in front of ya. I wanted to know how you guys dealt with it when Houser was going through his cancer and what you liked that he did and what you wish he would have done. Hopefully you don't mind getting in touch with me. Thanks man. Kevin
All Comments
-Fred Mills, Blurt Managing Editor
love your essay. i bought my music but stole sexy fiction from the local bookstore. The way you feel about Ummagumma is how i feel about "Erotic Confessions Vol 8"
How about casting a dark, guilty mood over the orlando HOB with an nasty Astronomy Domine jam?
The last time I checked, you couldn't download tickets to a show. So anyone making music still can sell tickets and perform for $$$.
And writing this as someone in their mid-30's who both illegally downloads, as well as continues to buy, a considerable amount of music, I have found that illegal downloading has given me the opportunity to significantly broaden my music experience by giving me access to areas like free jazz, avant-garde electronicisms, etc., that in the past I would have been (and continue to be) too poor to buy. There is nothing more disappointing that forking over $10-$20 to take a chance on something and end up being disappointed. The high price of music results in safe, more conservative purchases from the cash-strapped fan. And I think due to file sharing we are going to continue to see an incredible "eclecticizing" of music over the next few years, as previously difficult-to-find music becomes possible to find with a click of a button.
For example, did you know that Geffen owns the rights to The Raincoats first two albums, which is out of print & unavailable on itunes, and refuses to license it to another label? Without file-sharing, music listeners would be unable to hear them unless they were lucky enough to stumble across it in a used bin.
I share Mr. School's fondness for record buying, but I find his take on illegal downloads to be overly simplistic and not show a whole lot of thought on the subject.
Phil.